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Don Salmon's avatar

I'll be happy to answer one question:

How does his failure to address the rise of “wokeism” affect his analysis?

I've asked hundreds of people over the past 10 years to answer a simple question:

"If you spent one month without contact with any media - print, radio, TV, online of all kinds - how would anything related to what you think of as "woke" affect you?"

What kinds of answers did I get?

(1) It would not affect me at all (about 85% gave this answer, usually with tremendous reluctance)

(2) Among college humanities students (since college humanities students have been coming up with obnoxious comments since at least the founding of Cambridge university, and at this point about 5% of college students major in the humanities, this means this has close to zero effect on our general civic life)

(3) HR presentations (usually about 2 or 3 times a year)

David Horowitz (a disaffected Leftst radical) was hired in the early 90s by a right wing organization to dig into obscure left wing academics and write articles making people think this represented the thinking of most liberals.

Looking back over 60 years, I think this woke mythology is a pretty good reflection of a much larger issue you don't touch on - the end of the age of Enlightenment.

Kant said this fairly well a few centuries back but science has now progressed to the point that we can't ignore it anymore. The materialist philosophy underlying most of liberalism (and infecting most of religious conservatism as well) never worked, but we are seeing the results of its failure in every aspect of our lives.

Until we're willing to even consider there is a way of knowing which transcends ordinary reason, we will never solve our problems.

jim loving's avatar

Clearly the Enlightenment and Reason has produced our current Meta-Crisis.

Here is a look at the thinking beyond Enlightenment-Reason, aka modernity, that looks at an attempt to map current thinking beyond it and post-modernism, to address a way ahead.

https://medium.com/@jylterps/the-meta-crisis-and-underlying-worldviews-mapping-a-way-forward-6cd5f3724111

Don Salmon's avatar

I would agree, beyond systems and maps, theosis is the key.

What do we do to inspire more people to even consider much less embody this?

This is actually a good place to start. Carol is a wonderful writer, very intelligent, compassionate, empathic and articulate. She has been, as far as I can see, aware of the need to go beyond the “maps”/systems” of today, but also as far as I can see, is deeply skeptical of anything associated with theosis.

Carol, am I wrong?

jim loving's avatar

"What do we do to inspire more people to even consider much less embody this?" That is the question isn't it. Jamie Wheal, founder of the Flow Genome project and author of multiple books (Stealing Fire, Recapture the Rapture) suggest we will do so by joining what he calls "ethical cults." He also has a substack, "Homegrown Humans." https://substack.com/@jamiewheal

Don Salmon's avatar

thanks Jim.

My guess is a combination of many things - most of all, the integration of contemplative practices with all areas of society, beginning with infants and toddlers, on up through all forms of education, business, arts, sports, media, etc.

jim loving's avatar

This looks really good. This was my contribution, reviewing Robert Kagan's book defending American liberal principles from the Declaration and Constitution.

https://medium.com/@jylterps/defending-liberalism-and-modernity-from-antiliberal-authoritarian-destruction-and-revenge-9ae152af6d0a